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We form a lot of different kinds of relationships in our careers. Some are transactional, and others are more personal. Drew Wilkinson, founder of the Climate Leadership Collective, makes the case that understanding the various natures of these relationships – and fostering as many as possible – can help both individuals and the planet. After working his way from musician to the leader of Microsoft’s employee sustainability community, Drew now works as a consultant. He helps others grow the social ecosystems that will help us all thrive. 

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Degrees: Real talk about planet-saving careers is presented by Environmental Defense Fund (EDF). Yesh Pavlik Slenk and Daniel Hill are our hosts. Amy Morse is EDF’s producer. Emily Shaw Creates is our production company. The Degrees production team includes executive producer Emily Shaw, producers Anna Van Dine and Gabby Bulgarelli, technical director Jacob Winik, and mixing engineer Aja Simpson. Our theme song is Shame, Shame, Shame from Yesh’s favorite band, Lake Street Dive.